Abstract: Examples include a method for determining a permanent magnet flux state of a rotor in a synchronous motor using a VSD. The method includes obtaining d-axis and q-axis inductance values of the motor, fixing a non-zero stator current magnitude and controlling a motor speed using a speed loop regulation in a stator current angle ? polar coordinate frame to reach a zero motor speed steady state corresponding to the fixed non-zero stator current magnitude, to the obtained d-axis and q-axis inductance values, and to a no-load situation. The method further includes recording coordinates of the reached steady state.